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Talking Watches With Jean Arnault, Director Of Watches At Louis Vuitton

At the helm of LV Watches for a short time, Arnault is already making waves. Just wait until you see his collection.

NH Type 1B</u></a> (on HODINKEE Japan) and this year’s brand new <a href=https://www.hodinkee.com/"https://www.hodinkee.com/articles/the-naoya-hida-and-co-nh-type-2a-live-pics-and-pricing/">NH Type 2A</u></a>. I must admit, we expected a somewhat dress-centric collection before meeting him, but his personal lineup turned out to be quite diverse. Let’s look into them. </p>","dropcap":false},"type":"Block::BodyCopy"},{"data":{"size":"large","images":["00638b85-1e56-4065-a887-d3e2d931c1fe","e3ba0a30-99ed-4dd6-b3d3-a700272a55d8"],"enforce_aspect_ratio":true},"type":"Block::TwoUpImageContainer"},{"data":{"size":"h2","headline":"Eterna Eterna-Matic"},"type":"Block::Headline"},{"data":{"size":"large","images":["edaad501-b8a4-4d2e-8c8c-d54a590cf3ad"]},"type":"Block::InlineImageContainer"},{"data":{"copy":"<p>Of all watches he brought to us, this was the very first piece he picked up. He appreciated the fact you could observe the internal mechanism from both sides, and he spent hours studying the components in action and the movement structure with a loupe when he first got into the watch industry. I’d say it is not common for someone to choose a watch with this level of skeletonization as their first piece. Perhaps his childhood experience — opening up a gifted watch that stopped working and falling love with the mechanism — led him to make this piece the first watch he purchased on his own. </p>","dropcap":false},"type":"Block::BodyCopy"},{"data":{"size":"h2","headline":"Seiko x Giugiaro Design Speedmaster"},"type":"Block::Headline"},{"data":{"size":"large","images":["34bae27f-ae60-48cf-bb02-15ca8f6c3106"]},"type":"Block::InlineImageContainer"},{"data":{"copy":"<p>Giugiaro designed several pieces for Seiko, and this one was introduced in 1983. Hida first saw this watch at a Giorgetto Giugiaro design exhibition held at his hometown museum in Kyoto, which included not only cars but also household electronics and even pasta! He was not able to acquire the watch then, but he would eventually bump into one by chance and purchase it for a reasonable price. He doesn’t feel too comfortable wearing the original vintage piece as a daily driver, and he opted to wear the 2013 re-edition model regularly instead.</p>","dropcap":false},"type":"Block::BodyCopy"},{"data":{"size":"h2","headline":"Ebel 1911 Automatic"},"type":"Block::Headline"},{"data":{"size":"large","images":["1e695dfc-fd5b-47c9-9dc2-655f678da97a"]},"type":"Block::InlineImageContainer"},{"data":{"copy":"<p>This watch has a special place in Hida’s heart as he made his first visit to Switzerland for Ebel. The Frederic Piguet Cal. 951 automatic movement runs this very thin piece. An interesting and rather uncommon aspect of this watch is that while the entire case and bracelet are made of stainless steel, the crown is made of white gold. He was told that gold, which is highly corrosion proof, was used for the crown because it would be handled by the user the most. Such attention to detail, as well as the fact that this kind of decision-making process in watchmaking flowed through a large organization from the top down, made an impact on Hida.  </p>","dropcap":false},"type":"Block::BodyCopy"},{"data":{"alignment":"inline_billboard"},"type":"Block::Advertisement"},{"data":{"size":"h2","headline":"Vacheron Constantin Round Watch"},"type":"Block::Headline"},{"data":{"size":"large","images":["09d51ccc-221f-467b-9c26-4f02f9a1f664"]},"type":"Block::InlineImageContainer"},{"data":{"copy":"<p>Hida chose this vintage round-shaped Vacheron Constantin for its hand-wound movement and center-seconds configuration. In the 1960s, the era this piece is from, the industry thought the center seconds was the future of watchmaking, and some even modified existing small seconds hand-winding watches into a center seconder. At trade shows like Baselworld and SIHH, he kept several watches from manufacturers he worked with in his pockets and swapped them out on his wrist as he walked into each manufacturer's booth. This watch was one of those pieces, and he remembers the VIPs of VC praised his choice when they saw this vintage piece for the first time.</p>","dropcap":false},"type":"Block::BodyCopy"},{"data":{"size":"h2","headline":"Patek Philippe Calatrava Ref. 2483"},"type":"Block::Headline"},{"data":{"size":"large","images":["48fc4574-51ea-4a27-9fd5-fbe21a552d29"]},"type":"Block::InlineImageContainer"},{"data":{"copy":"<p>While he was representing Breguet, his research into their biggest competitor, Patek Philippe, led him to actually fall in love with the competitor brand. While Ref. 2483 shares the dial layout with the Ref. 96, the former measures 33mm across its case instead of 30mm on the latter. The watch houses a hand-wound caliber 12-120 and features, in his opinion, a well-balanced dial layout. His ideals for his own watchmaking — like having the small seconds positioned closer to the perimeter of the dial instead of the center and using a large movement in a relatively small case — were solidified by this watch.</p>","dropcap":false},"type":"Block::BodyCopy"},{"data":{"size":"h2","headline":"NAOYA HIDA & Co, NH TYPE 1B"},"type":"Block::Headline"},{"data":{"size":"large","images":["7030abe8-9376-4be2-a3d7-f8ef77626431"]},"type":"Block::InlineImageContainer"},{"data":{"copy":"<p>The watch Hida wore to the filming was his first production model, NH TYPE 1B, which debuted last year. This watch is an embodiment of his experience in the industry and what he has learned from the watches he’s owned. From the case size to the location of the small-seconds dial, the watch is packed with his design philosophy. Check out our <a href=https://www.hodinkee.com/"https://www.hodinkee.jp/articles/naoya-hida-and-co-nh-type-1b/">Hands-On article</u></a> (in Japanese) of the piece for details.</p>","dropcap":false},"type":"Block::BodyCopy"},{"data":{"size":"h2","headline":"Universal Genève Polerouter"},"type":"Block::Headline"},{"data":{"size":"large","images":["8964970b-5b67-46f8-9a92-6a7d4196736e"]},"type":"Block::InlineImageContainer"},{"data":{"copy":"<p>There was a period Hida collected several watches equipped with a micro-rotor, and an example of such pieces is this Universal Genève Polerouter. The manufacturer commissioned Gérald Genta to design a watch to commemorate the launch of Scandinavian Airlines' direct flights from New York/Los Angeles to European destinations. The watch featured antimagnetic properties, which was uncommon back then.</p>","dropcap":false},"type":"Block::BodyCopy"},{"data":{"size":"h2","headline":"Swatch Sistem 51"},"type":"Block::Headline"},{"data":{"size":"large","images":["5f268733-953b-4406-aa97-6a61994aa9ba"]},"type":"Block::InlineImageContainer"},{"data":{"copy":"<p>The Sistem 51 left a deep impression on Hida when it debuted at Baselworld, and he purchased this watch at Zurich airport on his way to SIHH in the following year. What this watch brought to the table — like its fully automated manufacturing process, long power reserve despite the low price, and respectable timekeeping accuracy, to name a few — made Hida, who’s been in the industry for years, realize that watch manufacturing was transitioning into a new era.</p>","dropcap":false},"type":"Block::BodyCopy"},{"data":{"alignment":"right_rail"},"type":"Block::Advertisement"},{"data":{"size":"h2","headline":"MIH Watch"},"type":"Block::Headline"},{"data":{"size":"large","images":["1c75405c-6049-4d50-abfd-9cffb54a7d18"]},"type":"Block::InlineImageContainer"},{"data":{"copy":"<p>This piece was designed exclusively for the fundraising effort of the International Museum of Horology (Musée International d‘Horlogerie). Ludwig Oechslin, then-director of the museum and a watchmaker, tasked industrial designer Christian Gafner with designing the watch. An independent watchmaker Paul Gerber worked on its highly modified movement. Hida would bump into someone wearing this watch once in a while, and he finds most of them to be serious collectors. He sees this watch as a sort of secret handshake, a membership card to the club of watch enthusiasts. It is an interesting conversation piece no matter how you cut it.</p>","dropcap":false},"type":"Block::BodyCopy"},{"data":{"size":"large","images":["31c20498-c201-401e-912f-533210f0176b","3aacace9-e65f-402d-85ab-b2c5b2c65df7"],"enforce_aspect_ratio":true},"type":"Block::TwoUpImageContainer"},{"data":{"size":"h2","headline":"Ralph Lauren Slim Classic"},"type":"Block::Headline"},{"data":{"size":"large","images":["3d2b1c3c-1924-4390-944d-59571b8d74e9"]},"type":"Block::InlineImageContainer"},{"data":{"copy":"<p>Ralph Lauren, a highly detail-oriented designer and a watch enthusiast, launched Ralph Lauren Watch &amp; Jewelry Co. with the Richemont Group. The Slim Classic is a very thin watch featuring a manufacture movement RL430 by Piaget. This watch, with its guilloché dial and ornate bezel design, serves as a bit of an accent piece for his outfit.</p>","dropcap":false},"type":"Block::BodyCopy"},{"data":{"size":"h2","headline":"King Seiko Hi-Beat"},"type":"Block::Headline"},{"data":{"size":"large","images":["b1e27750-04d2-416d-bf51-83f98b333be0"]},"type":"Block::InlineImageContainer"},{"data":{"copy":"<p>This King Seiko Hi-Beat is Hida’s most recent acquisition. He became a fan of Seiko’s design from the 1970s, and he started to look into King Seiko, which shares the design language with Grand Seiko, as the GS price has risen considerably in recent years. He is fond of the unique design cues with a direct lineage to modern Seiko and Grand Seiko.</p>","dropcap":false},"type":"Block::BodyCopy"},{"data":{"copy":"<p><i>This article</i> <a href=https://www.hodinkee.com/"https://www.hodinkee.jp/articles/seiko-presage-crown-chronograph-homage-2020/" rel=\"noopener\" target=\"_blank\"><i>f</i></a><a href=https://www.hodinkee.com/"https://www.hodinkee.jp/articles/talking-watches-with-naoya-hida/" rel=\"noopener\" target=\"_blank\"><i>irst appeared</i></a> <i>on HODINKEE.jp, which you can visit</i> <a href=https://www.hodinkee.com/"https://www.hodinkee.jp//" rel=\"noopener\" target=\"_blank\"><i>clicking here</i></a><i>.</i></p>","dropcap":false},"type":"Block::BodyCopy"}],"migrated_content":true,"meta_title":null,"meta_description":null,"meta_social_media_headline":null,"meta_social_media_description":null,"meta_social_media_image":null,"artist_name":null,"artist_type":null,"internal_notes":null,"hero_image":{"id":"10cb88c5-becf-482a-9cac-410806ef6f5e","container_id":8009,"container_type":"Article","url":"https://hodinkee-production.s3.amazonaws.com/uploads/images/1591632680457-tj60tbq66f-3ea1062732f47ea0ac4bb5779bc10ad2/hero_image_naoya_hida.jpg","width":2880,"height":1620,"format":"jpg","render_args":null,"caption":null,"alt_text":null,"created_at":"2020-06-01T13:23:36.420-04:00","updated_at":"2020-06-08T12:11:31.675-04:00","sort_order":0,"product_ids":null,"imgix_url":"https://hodinkee.imgix.net/uploads/images/1591632680457-tj60tbq66f-3ea1062732f47ea0ac4bb5779bc10ad2/hero_image_naoya_hida.jpg?ixlib=rails-1.1.0"},"column":{"id":18,"slug":"talking_watches","name":"Talking Watches","description":"HODINKEE’s flagship video series explores watches and the people who love them – from musicians and athletes to tech innovators and business moguls.","sort_order":13,"created_at":"2016-07-13T12:24:44.178-04:00","updated_at":"2023-05-04T16:59:23.507-04:00","status":"visible"},"share_url":"https://www.hodinkee.com/articles/talking-watches-with-naoya-hida","full_title":"Talking Watches: With Naoya Hida","tags":[]},{"id":7478,"slug":"talking-watches-with-todd-levin","column_slug":"talking_watches","title":"With Todd Levin","status":"published","working_copy_of_id":null,"published_at":"2020-03-10T13:00:02.431-04:00","created_at":"2020-02-07T15:49:39.212-05:00","updated_at":"2021-06-23T11:24:22.314-04:00","scheduled_for":null,"review_status":null,"package_id":2,"lede":"<p>The art advisor's incredible eye turned a family connection into a focused, brilliant collection.</p>","hero_media_type":"video","hero_video_id":"6140132683001","hero_video_type":"brightcove","hero_homepage_image":null,"gallery_view":false,"legacy_url":null,"multiple_authors":false,"pinned_related_article_id":null,"hero_image_url":null,"hero_homepage_image_url":null,"view_count":83683,"public_token":null,"notification_sent":true,"keyword_targeting":null,"apple_news_id":null,"display_template":"package_video","exclude_from_related":false,"comments_state":"comments_enabled","article_type":"default_article","shopify_id":null,"featured_comment_id":null,"noindex":false,"sponsored_by":null,"advertising_enabled":true,"redirect_url":"","automatic_related_articles":true,"show_promotional_frame":true,"show_related_articles":true,"show_editors_picks":true,"sponsor_image_url":"","display_theme":"light","custom_props":{},"content_chunks":[{"data":{"alignment":"square_breaker"},"type":"Block::Advertisement"},{"data":{"copy":"<p>There are certain people out there who have truly exceptional taste. It's easy to think of that as something predestined, something a person lucks into at birth, but that's only part of the story. Truly outstanding taste is almost always cultivated, honed, and developed through countless hours of research, education, and passion. Todd Levin is a perfect example of someone who must have some kind of natural gift that aided in his decades-long pursuit of appreciating the very best. He collects art, furniture, Blue Note jazz records, and, of course, watches, and what unites all of his collections is that they're focused on only the best.</p>","dropcap":true},"type":"Block::BodyCopy"},{"data":{"size":"small","images":["d726efdb-1b83-417d-9348-295e3065106d"]},"type":"Block::InlineImageContainer"},{"data":{"copy":"<p>Todd's job is as an art advisor (<a href=https://www.hodinkee.com/"http://www.levinartgroup.com//" rel=\"noopener\" target=\"_blank\">you can check that out here</a>), which means he spends his time helping other people build their own world-class collections. One day, he might be off to Maastricht to examine an Old Master painting, and another day he might calling everyone he knows, trying to track down a rare antiquity. It's a job that's equal parts detective work, knowing your stuff, and loving the chase. 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So when Todd invited me to come out to New Jersey to visit him at his recently acquired Frank Lloyd Wright house, the Stuart Richardson House, I knew I couldn't pass up the opportunity, and I wanted to share it with all of you here. </p>\n<p>Without further ado, this is your official Talking Watches with Todd Levin.</p>","dropcap":false},"type":"Block::BodyCopy"},{"data":{"size":"h2","headline":"Elgin Pocket Watch"},"type":"Block::Headline"},{"data":{"size":"small","images":["50462559-703b-406f-8b6c-a8a969ed51cc"]},"type":"Block::InlineImageContainer"},{"data":{"copy":"<p>Todd is a sentimental person. Mixed in with the Diane Arbus print and the Picasso drawing on his walls are pictures of his parents on their first date and other family heirlooms. This open-faced Elgin pocket watch has a gold-filled case (a layer of gold applied over a base metal) and dates back to the 1920s. 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Later in his life, Todd's father became deeply interested in watches – something Todd found fascinating, since his father wasn't typically interested in things that you might call \"luxuries.\" On one visit, he found his father surrounded by watch books and magazines, and his father told him, \"You know what, I think I'm going to buy myself a nice watch.\" This Citizen is that watch.</p>\n<p>After his father passed away, Todd gave the watch to a family friend who he thought would treasure it, and he didn't think about it again for quite a while. Cleaning out a storage unit one day, though, he found his father's old books and magazines, full of post-it notes with his thoughts on various watches. Todd began pouring over these tomes, reconnecting with his father in the process. 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These watches don't trade hands very often, relatively speaking, and when you get an opportunity to acquire one, you either have to jump at the chance or wait for the next go.</p>","dropcap":false},"type":"Block::BodyCopy"},{"data":{"size":"small","images":["ff152639-9ef2-462b-9870-474d2fd2ab34","11755cc6-6543-4930-8f21-f68de5dd2d7b"],"enforce_aspect_ratio":true},"type":"Block::TwoUpImageContainer"},{"data":{"copy":"<p>This Philippe Dufour Simplicity was offered to Todd, and luckily, it was exactly the model he wanted – the 37mm case, in platinum, with the <i>guilloché</i> dial. Sure, all Simplicities are incredible, but for Todd, the larger case size (the alternative is 34mm), the more contemporary look of the white metal (as opposed to rose gold), and the detailed, modern dial (instead of the more traditional lacquered dial with Breguet hands) make this one a winner.  </p>","dropcap":false},"type":"Block::BodyCopy"},{"data":{"size":"h2","headline":"George Daniels Millennium Watch"},"type":"Block::Headline"},{"data":{"size":"small","images":["cf0a89f3-7ac8-4b7d-9ffb-2cc58508e6aa"]},"type":"Block::InlineImageContainer"},{"data":{"copy":"<p>Another one of the watches on Todd's list was this one, the Daniels Millennium watch. Although it is also a 37mm watch with a rather traditional disposition, it couldn't be more different from the Dufour above. The watch's yellow-gold case and detailed <i>guilloché</i> dial definitely give it a more antique look, something that Daniels was known for. Likewise, the movement finishing is as British as it gets, with frosted plates and bridges, and a rather architectural structure. If you want to see the difference between Swiss watchmaking and British watchmaking at their highest levels, just examine this next to a Simplicity. It's a masterclass in two watches.</p>","dropcap":false},"type":"Block::BodyCopy"},{"data":{"size":"small","images":["4dd88527-6828-4df9-87f2-d624684c179e","d9354e78-0530-438a-ad12-86d7b300edd3"],"enforce_aspect_ratio":true},"type":"Block::TwoUpImageContainer"},{"data":{"copy":"<p>There's also a personal connection here. In the mid-1990s, Todd worked at Sotheby's in New York. At the time, he wasn't interested in watches and had no idea that over in London, his colleague Tina Millar had hired none other than George Daniels to advise the auction house's watch department. Daniels made this very Millennium watch for Millar, and when it came up for sale, Todd knew that this was the example he had to have.</p>","dropcap":false},"type":"Block::BodyCopy"},{"data":{"size":"h2","headline":"George Daniels Anniversary Watch, No. 4"},"type":"Block::Headline"},{"data":{"size":"small","images":["6d874346-b662-4a94-b060-c502cd76f927"]},"type":"Block::InlineImageContainer"},{"data":{"copy":"<p>It might sound crazy, but Todd refers to this piece affectionately as his \"daily beater\" watch. Compared to the Simplicity or even the Millennium, the Daniels Anniversary watch has a sturdier profile and a bigger presence on the wrist, with its 40mm gold case. This makes it perfect for frequent wear, and Todd doesn't feel like he has to baby it. This is how he likes to enjoy his watches – he wants to wear them, not stare at them in a safe.</p>","dropcap":false},"type":"Block::BodyCopy"},{"data":{"size":"small","images":["3442da83-c47e-4387-b003-534e25847856","54d21f33-a2de-4697-8a55-a46c54699f81"],"enforce_aspect_ratio":true},"type":"Block::TwoUpImageContainer"},{"data":{"copy":"<p>This Anniversary is number four of 35, making it a very early example. The Anniversary marks an important milestone for both Daniels and Roger W. Smith, with this watch's movement incorporating Smith's iteration of the co-axial escapement, which did away with the dual escape wheel system in favor of a single component.  Without getting too nerdy here, it makes the caliber more reliable and production a bit more streamlined. The dial features a signature mix of <i>guilloché</i> patterns and that quintessential overlapping-circle design that Daniels is known for. 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And for five years I have searched high and low for a woman to invite on Talking Watches. Sure, there are plenty of women who wear watches, who love watches, and who want to talk about watches. But none that had that certain pizzazz we were looking for – until now. I am very excited to introduce to you our latest Talking Watches guest: entrepreneur, author, philanthropist, and former Real Housewife of New York, Bethenny Frankel.</p>","dropcap":true},"type":"Block::BodyCopy"},{"data":{"size":"small","images":["661dac7c-8b2b-4429-98de-9d6e9dd7c341"]},"type":"Block::InlineImageContainer"},{"data":{"copy":"<p>If you're not already familiar with Bethenny Frankel, you should be. She just recently retired from Bravo TV's <i>Real Housewives of New York</i>, on which she was a main cast member for seven non-consecutive seasons dating back to the show's 2008 premier. As a fan of both Frankel and the show, I wish I could say I was chill about sitting down in her Soho apartment to talk watches, but I wasn't. The truth is, I have been watching Bethenny on the <i>Real Housewives of New York</i> (or RHONY, as we fans so lovingly call it) since its first season. In fact, she was one of my favorite people on the show for her razor-sharp wit (hysterical), brutal honesty (refreshing), and her fearless entrepreneurship (boss-lady). </p>\n<p>Bethenny originally started her career selling pashmina scarves in Los Angeles, but over the last decade and change, she built an empire on \"Skinny Girl Margaritas,\" her brand of low-calorie cocktails and wines. The <a href=https://www.hodinkee.com/"http://skinnygirlglobal.com//" rel=\"noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Skinny Girl</a> brand has expanded into a $100 million lifestyle titan that includes food products, lifestyle accessories, and a full suite of clothing. Her business has been covered by the likes of <a href=https://www.hodinkee.com/"https://www.adweek.com/brand-marketing/what-adweek-means-to-these-entrepreneurs//" rel=\"noopener\" target=\"_blank\"><i>AdWeek</i></a>, she graced the cover of <a href=https://www.hodinkee.com/"https://www.forbes.com/sites/maddieberg/2016/11/16/skinnygirl-fat-wallet-how-bethenny-frankel-earns-more-than-any-other-housewife/#787370d66311\" rel=\"noopener\" target=\"_blank\"><i>Forbes</i> magazine</a> in 2011 as the headliner of the new celebrity money-makers, and she <a href=https://www.hodinkee.com/"https://variety.com/gallery/variety-2019-power-of-women-new-york-impact-list/91st-academy-awards-arrivals-los-angeles-usa-24-feb-2019-11//" rel=\"noopener\" target=\"_blank\">was included in <i>Variety</i>'s 2019 Power of Women New York Impact List</a>. She has made an appearance as an investor on <i>Shark Tank</i> and helped a number of businesses grow successfully. <a href=https://www.hodinkee.com/"https://www.msnbc.com/craig-melvin/watch/bethenny-frankel-talks-disaster-relief-initiatives-in-puerto-rico-1244704323881/" rel=\"noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Frankel is also tirelessly dedicated to charity work</a>, including her own non-profit, <a href=https://www.hodinkee.com/"http://www.bethenny.com/bstrong//" rel=\"noopener\" target=\"_blank\">B Strong</a>, which provides \"real-time emergency assistance to people in crisis,\" like those affected by the Paradise Fires in California, <a href=https://www.hodinkee.com/"http://www.bethenny.com/2018/05/30/bethenny-frankel-and-cnns-brooke-baldwin-discuss-crisis-providing-support-to-puerto-rico//" rel=\"noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Hurricane Maria in Puerto Rico</a>, and most recently, <a href=https://www.hodinkee.com/"https://www.bravotv.com/the-daily-dish/wildfires-in-australia-relief-efforts/" rel=\"noopener\" target=\"_blank\">the wildfires in Australia</a>. And yes, she is often the one rolling up her sleeves to help people in need. As I said, she's a BOSS. </p>","dropcap":false},"type":"Block::BodyCopy"},{"data":{"size":"small","images":["f25bb2b1-af19-42a6-9c14-b5fcb0f0ee4c","34ddf35c-5480-4c49-a16c-4dc863e3af93"],"enforce_aspect_ratio":true},"type":"Block::TwoUpImageContainer"},{"data":{"copy":"<p>Along the way, Bethenny has picked up a love and appreciation for watches. She loves collecting them, wearing them, and hunting for them. Most of her collection is modern, and focuses heavily on Rolex and Audemars Piguet (a girl after my own heart!). She is just as fearless about her watches as she is in real life, and buys only what she likes. She doesn't buy to buy, she finds her next dream piece and hunts for it with tenacity until it's the right time and the right price. I found her collection refreshing – she is a good reminder that everyone collects watches differently and that it is ok to like watches because they are \"pretty\" or to dislike a watch because winding it doesn't fit into your lifestyle. This is something the community often forgets, which makes it less inclusive than it should be. Another thing you will notice is the girl has got the hookup, with several impossible-to-get pieces in her collection including the Hulk and the green Daytona. I'm really excited to share her collection and her enthusiasm with you. It is rare to meet someone like Bethenny Frankel. She's smart, savvy, and wickedly funny, and I was honored to sit with her and talk about our favorite thing – watches.</p>","dropcap":false},"type":"Block::BodyCopy"},{"data":{"size":"h2","headline":"Rolex Daytona Ref. 116515LN"},"type":"Block::Headline"},{"data":{"size":"large","images":["4ce4bd6c-a348-4711-9483-b03017ebecf7"]},"type":"Block::InlineImageContainer"},{"data":{"copy":"<p>Bethenny has a lot of Rolex watches. And not just any Rolex; she has a lot of Rolex Daytonas, one of which was the reference <a href=https://www.hodinkee.com/"https://www.rolex.com/watches/cosmograph-daytona/m116515ln-0019.html/" rel=\"noopener\" target=\"_blank\">116515LN</a> in rose gold with an off-white dial. You usually see this model with an Oysterflex bracelet, but Bethenny has it on an alligator strap. She spotted it on another woman's wrist in Aspen one winter and decided she had to have one too. After hunting for a bit, she found one that suited her needs and it hasn't left her collection since. As a Daytona lover myself, I was excited to see this unusual color combination– you most often see this reference with a matching rose-gold dial, not the creme color you see here. This is a great example of Bethenny buying what she likes and sticking to it.   </p>","dropcap":false},"type":"Block::BodyCopy"},{"data":{"size":"h2","headline":"Patek Philippe Nautilus Ref. 7010R"},"type":"Block::Headline"},{"data":{"size":"large","images":["6b1e9167-c7ec-4977-b6df-0fdc39d92099"]},"type":"Block::InlineImageContainer"},{"data":{"copy":"<p>Bethenny collects based on what she likes, whether it's the watch as a whole, or one particular detail. For this one, it was the grey dial. You would be hard-pressed to argue that the Patek Philippe Ladies' Nautilus ref. <a href=https://www.hodinkee.com/"https://www.patek.com/en/collection/nautilus/7010-1R-012/" rel=\"noopener\" target=\"_blank\">7010R</a> is not a grail ladies' watch. Bethenny's 7010 is in rose gold with diamond-set bezel and anthracite dial. This is the earlier 32mm version with caliber  E23-250 S C (quartz) that has since been followed by the <a href=https://www.hodinkee.com/"https://www.hodinkee.com/articles/the-patek-philippe-ladies-nautilus-7118-introducing/" rel=\"noopener\" target=\"_blank\">automatic reference 7188R</a> that measure 35.6mm with wavy dial released at Baselworld last year. </p>","dropcap":false},"type":"Block::BodyCopy"},{"data":{"alignment":"inline_billboard"},"type":"Block::Advertisement"},{"data":{"size":"h2","headline":"Rolex Daytona Ref. 116505"},"type":"Block::Headline"},{"data":{"size":"large","images":["48a8f244-1c6e-4694-ae60-cee5c02699ee"]},"type":"Block::InlineImageContainer"},{"data":{"copy":"<p>My personal favorite watch from Bethenny's collection should come as no surprise: The <a href=https://www.hodinkee.com/"https://www.rolex.com/watches/cosmograph-daytona/m116505-0012.html/" rel=\"noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Rolex Daytona ref. 116505</a> in rose gold with diamond indexes (swoon). I have been eying this watch in boutiques a lot lately, so I was really excited to see that someone else loves it too! Bethenny enjoys it specifically for the unusual diamond indexes, which you so rarely see, and I couldn't agree more. You can find Bethenny wearing this watch often on <a href=https://www.hodinkee.com/"https://www.instagram.com/bethennyfrankel/?hl=en\%22 rel=\"noopener\" target=\"_blank\">her Instagram feed</a>.</p>","dropcap":false},"type":"Block::BodyCopy"},{"data":{"size":"h2","headline":"Rolex Daytona Ref. 116508 'Christmas Dial'"},"type":"Block::Headline"},{"data":{"size":"large","images":["215a6120-3dd6-4755-84be-b737e1066811"]},"type":"Block::InlineImageContainer"},{"data":{"copy":"<p>I remember when this watch came out and literally no one cared about it. <a href=https://www.hodinkee.com/"https://www.hodinkee.com/articles/talking-watches-2-john-mayer/" rel=\"noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Then John Mayer said it was a \"sleeper\" on Talking Watches</a> and now no one can get it. Except for Bethenny. She had been on the hunt for this watch for a few months after first seeing it and was surprised by her boyfriend (a fellow diehard watch lover!) with the ref. 116508 as a gift. Ms. Frankel loves this watch for the beautiful green dial and small red detailing. Like all of us, she's in it for the little things, or as she likes to say, \"the angels are in the details.\"</p>","dropcap":false},"type":"Block::BodyCopy"},{"data":{"size":"h2","headline":"Audemars Piguet Royal Oak Ref. 67654OR.ZZ.1264OR.01"},"type":"Block::Headline"},{"data":{"size":"large","images":["0858467c-8835-4708-8ab9-aa62e05f7bb7"]},"type":"Block::InlineImageContainer"},{"data":{"copy":"<p>You may be familiar with the Frosted Gold Royal Oak, but that was too much for Bethenny – she finds the frosting to be too heavy for her taste. Cue <a href=https://www.hodinkee.com/"https://www.audemarspiguet.com/en/watch-collection/royal-oak/67654OR.ZZ.1264OR.01//" rel=\"noopener\" target=\"_blank\">this 33mm rose gold Royal Oak </a>with asymmetric diamond-setting throughout. First released in 2017, this watch is gorgeous in person, with each stone varying in size and appearing to cascade down the case, dial, and bracelet. It's elegant, understated, and just a little bit frosty. Once she had the seal of approval from her friend (and F.P. Journe's righthand man) Pierre Halimi, it was a go.  </p>","dropcap":false},"type":"Block::BodyCopy"},{"data":{"size":"h2","headline":"Audemars Piguet Royal Oak Ref. 15400"},"type":"Block::Headline"},{"data":{"size":"large","images":["9be8afc2-de85-4dcf-bd14-37c860bec713"]},"type":"Block::InlineImageContainer"},{"data":{"copy":"<p>Continuing with the Royal Oak theme, this 41mm <a href=https://www.hodinkee.com/"https://www.audemarspiguet.com/en/watch-collection/royal-oak/15400OR.OO.D002CR.01//" rel=\"noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Royal Oak ref. 15400</a> in yellow gold has a prominent spot in her collection. Both sporty and stout, this watch was a gift from her boyfriend on their second date. She loved the watch so much that he let her wear it at dinner and the next day said she could keep it as a memento. </p>","dropcap":false},"type":"Block::BodyCopy"},{"data":{"size":"h2","headline":"Audemars Piguet Royal Oak In White Gold with Diamonds And Emeralds"},"type":"Block::Headline"},{"data":{"size":"large","images":["92a2431f-3f41-4d09-ad4c-68d83485398b"]},"type":"Block::InlineImageContainer"},{"data":{"copy":"<p>One of the few vintage pieces in her collection, this Audemars Piguet Royal Oak is from the 1980s. It's made of white gold and completely set with diamonds with small emeralds as the indexes. Unlike a lot of celebrities these days, Bethenny is completely against aftermarket stone setting (as she should be!). I love how she wears this watch with jeans and a t-shirt and isn't too precious about her things despite having a great appreciation for them. 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In this milestone first episode, we welcome Shuhei Nishiguchi, the Director of BEAMS F, the prominent men's clothing retailer in Japan. He is also the author of “Nishiguchi's Closet” (Gakken Plus), where he discusses his hobby of collecting vintage watches. He loves to wear a great watch as the finishing touch to an outfit. His watch collection is mainly from the middle of the 20th century. Each of the watches perfectly matches his style, which always involves mixing vintage and modern.</p>\n<p>These watches are from a time when classic style reached its peak in terms of size and design. 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It's been used in the most extreme way possible; this watch has mingled with the stars. And as Dr. Williams says, when he looks at the watch he thinks of his father, from whom he received the watch. This watch has been to the ISS and to the bottom of the ocean too, but for Dr. Williams even that takes second place to the fact that it's a watch handed down from father to son. For that <i>Titanic</i> anecdote you'll have to watch the video.</p>","dropcap":false},"type":"Block::BodyCopy"},{"data":{"size":"h2","headline":"Omega Speedmaster X-33"},"type":"Block::Headline"},{"data":{"size":"large","images":["d685ba9d-84a6-4081-8ecb-0429333577ad"]},"type":"Block::InlineImageContainer"},{"data":{"copy":"<p>See the square pushers on this X-33? It was Dr. Williams's input that helped Omega make that design change. Originally they were circular and smaller, making them harder to operate. 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That watch had to be turned back into NASA and Omega; but what's even more interesting is that the one you see pictured, flown on STS-118, features the design changes that resulted from STS-90, showing the practical evolution of this modern day tool watch.</p>","dropcap":false},"type":"Block::BodyCopy"},{"data":{"alignment":"inline_billboard"},"type":"Block::Advertisement"},{"data":{"size":"h2","headline":"Breitling B-1"},"type":"Block::Headline"},{"data":{"size":"large","images":["1aad0e13-13b0-4c8b-bf24-ae55bf65d175"]},"type":"Block::InlineImageContainer"},{"data":{"copy":"<p>Everyone has their go-to, and it makes perfect sense that the B-1 is Williams's. It's analog, digital, <i>and</i> entirely functional. And it was tested on STS-118 when Williams had it strapped to his wrist in low Earth orbit. 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The HODINKEE team back then consisted of myself, Mr. Will Holloway, and the one and only SJPeezy – Stephen J. Pulvirent. Our team was small but strong, and all we needed back then was a free afternoon with a rock star to make some content that we are still proud of to this very day. I am proud to say that both Stephen and Will are still very much a part of this business, even now that we are over 10 times the size, and our offices are, well, a little bigger too. <a href=https://www.hodinkee.com/"https://www.hodinkee.com/articles/video-talking-watches-with-john-mayer/" rel=\"noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Talking Watches With John Mayer</a> aired on September 25, 2013, and since then it has been viewed almost 2 million times. 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The bezel is set with 48 brilliant-cut diamonds, the dial background is set with 240 brilliant-cut diamonds, and the hour markers include nine brilliant-cut sapphires. This is an insanely rare watch, and one that marked the first time Rolex produced the Daytona as a true high-luxury object. Oh, and John's example comes with a full set of box and original papers.</p>","dropcap":false},"type":"Block::BodyCopy"},{"data":{"size":"h2","headline":"Rolex Daytona Ref. 6270"},"type":"Block::Headline"},{"data":{"size":"large","images":["0f4f12fa-2680-43fd-b858-7f675fd9b2dc"]},"type":"Block::InlineImageContainer"},{"data":{"copy":"<p>The 6269 seen above is one of the most special and seldom-seen Daytonas on planet earth. But what it's not is <a href=https://www.hodinkee.com/"https://www.hodinkee.com/articles/rolex-daytona-reference-6270/" rel=\"noopener\" target=\"_blank\">the damn 6270</a>. 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On a rubber strap with a black dial and red accents, this is a great example of the style and format that made Hublot a major player in the space by blending aspects of an everyday wearable watch alongside a specific style and appeal. </p>","dropcap":false},"type":"Block::BodyCopy"},{"data":{"size":"small","images":["95438c1e-c7b4-4b86-b204-44651941d1da","8054b8d1-0fcc-4966-99fd-ebe8eb264fcb"],"enforce_aspect_ratio":true},"type":"Block::TwoUpImageContainer"},{"data":{"alignment":"inline_billboard"},"type":"Block::Advertisement"},{"data":{"size":"h2","headline":"F.P. Journe Chronomètre à Résonance"},"type":"Block::Headline"},{"data":{"size":"fullbleed","images":["7d276327-fdb6-4259-8b34-79fe7eebedf3"]},"type":"Block::InlineImageContainer"},{"data":{"copy":"<p>An effortlessly cool watch, this F.P. Journe Chronomètre à Résonance has a rare charm that works on both watch enthusiasts and those who have no idea what they are looking at. 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He was struggling to get his career as a magician off the ground when the watch became part of his collection, and he still remembers it fondly as a very timely morale booster. </p>","dropcap":false},"type":"Block::BodyCopy"},{"data":{"size":"small","images":["8246a24a-7e8f-48ee-8095-e4c7dfd8d224","10993fa9-afe8-4bec-89cd-6ed218cd3bb9"],"enforce_aspect_ratio":true},"type":"Block::TwoUpImageContainer"},{"data":{"size":"h2","headline":"Rolex Datejust 36mm In Stainless Steel"},"type":"Block::Headline"},{"data":{"size":"large","images":["cf4c0505-b710-4731-8b8f-275a1146e51a"]},"type":"Block::InlineImageContainer"},{"data":{"copy":"<p>This 36mm Datejust is, like the Mark XV, something of an exercise in horological classicism. It was, like the Mark XV, a gift to himself, but it was purchased to mark a time in his life when he'd begun to enjoy some real professional success (no help from Mom needed for this one!). 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The Mark XV and Datejust are both very solid, but relatively modest pieces and White was at a point in his watch collecting where he felt ready for, and in need of, a more overtly sporty watch; it was his first, you might say, statement piece.</p>","dropcap":false},"type":"Block::BodyCopy"},{"data":{"size":"small","images":["4a335f05-1dba-4406-b0f8-71911c1a2124","b3b6b68c-8152-4fb8-b83e-400fdb5c46bb"],"enforce_aspect_ratio":true},"type":"Block::TwoUpImageContainer"},{"data":{"size":"h2","headline":"Rolex Daytona Ref. 116500LN"},"type":"Block::Headline"},{"data":{"size":"large","images":["77835d4b-9ee0-4d4e-baaa-aa790d93833c"]},"type":"Block::InlineImageContainer"},{"data":{"copy":"<p>Speaking of statement pieces, this is his most recent. Rolex fans who find the current dearth of stainless steel sports watches available from the company frustrating will surely be able to relate to White's remark that the special event that this piece marks, was that he was able to get it at all. It's currently (no surprise) the watch he wears the most nowadays, and it speaks to both the maturing of his career and his small but very personally meaningful collection of timepieces. It's interesting to wonder where he'll go next – unlike many Talking Watches guests, his watch collecting is still at a relatively early stage (I can't help but wonder if his next piece might not be something thin, gold, and elegant). Whatever's next, I suspect it will be just as thoughtfully considered as his watches thus far – to White, the best thing about his watches are that each one is special to a particular time in his life. 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During his playing career, Greg Norman was a fixture on the PGA Tour who had a knack for being in contention in tournaments both large and small as they unfolded late on Sunday afternoons. (When Norman himself mentioned that he selected a certain watch to play with because it didn't reflect too much light in the afternoon sun, I found myself knowingly nodding along.) In all, he spent a total of 331 weeks as the world number-one, winning 91 international tournaments, 20 of which were PGA Tour events, as well as two British Open Championships. Norman came in second in seven other majors, and his status as an all-time great was cemented when he was inducted into the World Golf Hall of Fame in 2001. </p>","dropcap":true},"type":"Block::BodyCopy"},{"data":{"size":"small","images":["52f1dda5-cb48-483b-8eb0-79fdaf1849a6"]},"type":"Block::InlineImageContainer"},{"data":{"copy":"<p>But what's equally impressive is the second act of Norman's professional life. His activities since leaving the game of golf can be seen as a kind of how-to manual for athletes seeking to parlay a fruitful playing career into success in business. In fact, Norman was well on his way to becoming the manager of a global brand long before he sank his last professional putt, when he took over his own management from IMG in 1993. 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The first time you strap on a vintage Rolex. The first time you hear a truly exceptional minute repeater. They're milestones that also set the tone for everything that comes after. I can say, without reservation, that the afternoon I got to spend with René Beyer in the <a href=https://www.hodinkee.com/"http://www.beyer-ch.com/en/museum/portrait-museum//" rel=\"noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Uhrenmuseum Beyer</a> is one of those moments for me.</p>\n<p>René represents the eighth generation of his family's involvement in the watch and jewelry industry, which started with the founding of their store in Switzerland way back in 1760. In case you need a little perspective, this means that Beyer family members have been selling watches since before the French Revolution and the founding of the United States. But beyond his comprehensive knowledge of the history of watches and clocks, his skills as a watchmaker (yeah, he doesn't just sell the things), and his family's incredible collection, some of which is on display in the public museum that sits underneath <a href=https://www.hodinkee.com/"http://www.beyer-ch.com/en//" rel=\"noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Beyer Chronometrie</a> on Zürich's Bahnhofstrasse, René is someone with a ton of passion and generosity. 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René generally prefers to wear white metals, whether steel, titanium, or platinum, but he acquired this watch in the 1990s when two-tone was in fashion. Everyone needs a little bling sometimes, right?</p>","dropcap":false},"type":"Block::BodyCopy"},{"data":{"size":"small","images":["5a1eb269-e927-4c71-996a-71964fc4f4c3","2862b572-7fca-4f48-bdc3-ba8eb1c881f6"],"enforce_aspect_ratio":true},"type":"Block::TwoUpImageContainer"},{"data":{"size":"h2","headline":"Rolex Day-Date In White Gold"},"type":"Block::Headline"},{"data":{"size":"small","images":["94b66444-6d5e-4c07-b7d4-97a00d0d82a3"]},"type":"Block::InlineImageContainer"},{"data":{"copy":"<p>This is a special one for René. His father used to wear this watch a lot and when he passed away in 2002 and the family was dividing up his personal watches, this is the one René wanted most. It's a simple white gold Day-Date on a President bracelet, but it has tremendous sentimental value. 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After the expedition it was sent back to Rolex for testing and then eventually found its way into the Beyer Museum, where it can be seen on display today – René thinks it's important that people have the chance to see this watch for themselves. If I'm being totally honest, picking this watch up gave me goosebumps. </p>","dropcap":false},"type":"Block::BodyCopy"},{"data":{"size":"small","images":["eab6a62d-22d0-456c-9468-108a17ccd1a5","62734429-1972-4f5b-9a0f-f05bacf7d6e9"],"enforce_aspect_ratio":true},"type":"Block::TwoUpImageContainer"},{"data":{"alignment":"inline_billboard"},"type":"Block::Advertisement"},{"data":{"size":"h2","headline":"Rolex Deep Sea Special"},"type":"Block::Headline"},{"data":{"size":"small","images":["508c9931-5b56-46ef-8c52-0985d4d6e79b"]},"type":"Block::InlineImageContainer"},{"data":{"copy":"<p>This is a watch you almost never see. 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Spike has been a mainstay of the American comedy scene for upwards of two decades – getting his start as the receptionist at Saturday Night Live (where he earned the nickname \"Spike\") before becoming a regular writer for SNL, focusing heavily on the then Dennis Miller-hosted Weekend Update. He would go on to write for Late Night With David Letterman and eventually end up as the author of several of the most iconic episodes of the most iconic sitcom in history. I'm talking about Seinfeld, and Spike's episodes include \"The Soup Nazi,\" \"The Wig Master,\"  and \"The Muffin Tops,\" just to name a few. Like I said, iconic.</p>","dropcap":true},"type":"Block::BodyCopy"},{"data":{"size":"large","images":["fcdc50b6-4184-4956-a791-3a0ddb3493ae"]},"type":"Block::InlineImageContainer"},{"data":{"copy":"<p>He penned eight different episodes over the course of three years, many of which live on in the public vernacular. 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Sure, there are true lovers of a single category – but few dedicate so much passion, so much energy, and<i> so much time</i> to any one single type of watch, and have done so for as many years and with as much vigor as Jeff Stein. Stein is the founder and owner of <a href=https://www.hodinkee.com/"http://onthedash.com//" target=\"_blank\"><i>OnTheDash</i></a>, the undisputed champion of vintage Heuer online. The resource hosts an active forum, original stories (most authored by Stein), and an unparalleled level of information about all things vintage Heuer. It won't come as a surprise that Mr. Stein is, in fact, a Heuer collector of some note. 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When we launched \"Talking Watches\" last September, we did so with the express desire to bring you, our readers, the true collections of true watch lovers. That meant we would never feature anyone who has ever been paid by a watch manufacturer in any capacity – essentially, no ambassadors, no matter how big of a celebrity they might be. And as the following for TW has grown, so has the level of interest from those who would benefit from a mention in this series. But we've remained pure, showing you only real collectors, who truly love the watches they buy – and the man you'll meet today is no exception. But, there's a twist.</p>","dropcap":true},"type":"Block::BodyCopy"},{"data":{"copy":"<p>Today we're talking with Jean-Claude Biver. If you don't know who Mr. Biver is, I'll tell you. He's the current director of timepieces for the Louis Vuitton Moët Hennessy (LVMH) group. That means he oversees not only Hublot, which he bought, built, sold, and then directed as CEO until early 2012, but also Zenith (<a href=https://www.hodinkee.com/"https://www.hodinkee.com/blog/jean-frederic-dufour-ceo-rolex/">from which one of his \"disciples\" recently departed to helm a little company called Rolex</a>), and mega-brand TAG Heuer. Biver is one of the most fascinating, innovative, and creative minds in the history of watches, and his influence in the industry today is simply unrivaled. Biver was responsible for the re-birth of Blancpain in the '80s (we'll get to that), and several other brands, including Hublot. But today we aren't here to talk about his incredible accomplishments as a professional – no, we're here to talk about his personal collection as a watch lover. And it might surprise you. 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It was Biver's first <i>big</i> sale, and he told himself one day, when he could afford it, he would buy one. So he did.</p>","dropcap":false},"type":"Block::BodyCopy"},{"data":{"size":"h2","headline":"Patek Philippe Nautilus Reference 3700"},"type":"Block::Headline"},{"data":{"size":"large","images":["a4d2f7b1-5b57-4e98-89bb-23f045fe24fc"]},"type":"Block::InlineImageContainer"},{"data":{"copy":"<p>While at AP, Biver remembers the day he first saw a watch he would come to hate as a young man, the Patek Philippe Nautilus reference 3700. He couldn't believe Patek Philippe, this great brand, would <i>copy</i> the Royal Oak with such a similar design, from the same man, with the same movement! It was years later he would appreciate the Nautilus as an independent product, and now he says, \"no one remembers which came first, and both have grown into their own legacies.\" The more you think about this watch, the more you understand why it is in his collection.</p>","dropcap":false},"type":"Block::BodyCopy"},{"data":{"alignment":"inline_billboard"},"type":"Block::Advertisement"},{"data":{"size":"h2","headline":"Blancpain Perpetual Calendar (No. 00)"},"type":"Block::Headline"},{"data":{"size":"small","images":["5c33e2a8-8e80-457c-8b26-07751553fe0d"]},"type":"Block::InlineImageContainer"},{"data":{"copy":"<p>After his stint with Audemars Piguet, Biver spent three years with Omega, as manger of its \"gold\" collection. During this time, at the very core of the quartz crisis, Omega would create its gold watches separately from the remainder of the collection. It was here he learned that Omega owned Blancpain, a name that had been dormant since 1961. He, along with his friend, invested 22,000 CHF to buy the Blancpain name, and built it into something it never was before – a manufacture of true haute horology. Biver chose to go against all reason of the day. Instead of building inexpensive quartz watches, he decided to design elegant, almost \"vintage\" looking wristwatches with traditional complications. 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The most daunting was indeed the minute repeater, and this here is the very first minute repeater ever made by Blancpain.</p>","dropcap":false},"type":"Block::BodyCopy"},{"data":{"size":"small","images":["08964b52-96be-4bbc-93e1-8617e03af9c6"]},"type":"Block::InlineImageContainer"},{"data":{"copy":"<p><i><strong>Editor's Note</strong></i></p>\n<p>Now, I'm going to interject for a second. Up until this point, the watches we've shown you from Mr. Biver's collection have been impressive, personal, and interesting, no doubt. From here on in, we're about to get downright nasty (in a good way) from a <i>collecting</i> point of view. Many years ago, actually four-and-a-half years ago to be exact, I had the chance, for the very first time, to meet Mr. Jean-Claude Biver at an event in New York. I had been working on HODINKEE (though it was not a full-time job yet), and I was in the midst of applying to journalism school. I was young, and learning, and by no means did I ever think this little website would turn into <i>this</i>. But Mr. Biver took the time to sit with me when he clearly didn't have to (<a href=https://www.hodinkee.com/"https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=296927750123&amp;set=a.296923750123.156529.164055405123&amp;type=3&amp;theater\%22>see?), and to ask about what I was interested in, personally. I responded to him, unsurprisingly, \"I really love vintage Patek Philippe.\" And to my sincerest surprise, he said \"So do I!\" He told me back then, on February 7th, 2010, that he bought Pateks because of their history, and to pass along to his children. I was impressed, and always kept that tidbit in the back of my mind. And it was that mention that brings us here today.</p>\n<p>Fast forward to May of this year – I am standing in Mr. Biver's dining room outside Montreux, Switzerland. We are there to shoot an episode of \"Talking Watches\" and he says, \"Oh! I forgot you were coming. I didn't go to the bank so we will have to work with what I have here.\" That's fine, but not hearing anything about his collection ahead of time had me worried – was he <i>really</i> a collector or just another industry exec telling a journalist what he wanted to hear? And then he dropped this tray on the table.</p>","dropcap":false},"type":"Block::BodyCopy"},{"data":{"size":"small","images":["c5774125-7804-4e06-b9e9-d4ee7bd843d9"]},"type":"Block::InlineImageContainer"},{"data":{"copy":"<p>Question, answered. You want to see a serious Patek Philippe collection? You can't do much better than Jean-Claude Biver's. Let's get into it:</p>","dropcap":false},"type":"Block::BodyCopy"},{"data":{"alignment":"inline_billboard"},"type":"Block::Advertisement"},{"data":{"size":"h2","headline":"Patek Philippe Perpetual Calendar 3448 In Platinum (One Of Two)"},"type":"Block::Headline"},{"data":{"size":"large","images":["ba512df5-0baf-41c5-b7ab-4390cada1df5"]},"type":"Block::InlineImageContainer"},{"data":{"copy":"<p>This is a Patek Philippe perpetual calendar reference 3448, IN PLATINUM. The 3448, which was Patek first self-winding perpetual, was only made in yellow gold, with a few examples in white hitting the market – there was no such thing as a rose gold (<a href=https://www.hodinkee.com/"https://www.hodinkee.com/blog/2011/11/9/found-a-complicated-patek-philippe-the-world-never-knew-exis.html/">until this, of course</a>) or platinum 3448. Then, in 1997, Philippe Stern approved the assembly of two 3448s in platinum cases, using previously cased movements from the 1960s. Just two. 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What makes this stainless steel chronograph so special is that inside is not a modern in-house Patek chronograph, or even a Lemania-based movement, but rather a caliber 13-130, based on a Valjoux 23. This is the caliber used in <i>vintage</i> Patek chronographs from the '40s and '50s, and in fact, these movements were assembled back in 1955, and first shown in the 1930s.</p>","dropcap":false},"type":"Block::BodyCopy"},{"data":{"size":"small","images":["c0e36b01-21b6-4cf7-92b1-4e64c483e579"]},"type":"Block::InlineImageContainer"},{"data":{"copy":"<p>Only 16 were made because only 16 vintage movements were discovered, and while the movements were disassembled, cleaned, and reassembled, no modern updates were made. That means there is no shock-proofing to the balance. This is a watch that until I saw it on Mr. Biver's kitchen counter, I had never seen proof that it was actually put into production.</p>","dropcap":false},"type":"Block::BodyCopy"},{"data":{"size":"h2","headline":"Patek Philippe Reference 5106R Celestial For Only Watch (Piece Unique)"},"type":"Block::Headline"},{"data":{"size":"large","images":["2a58e74e-4ad6-4587-9556-2895280b8835"]},"type":"Block::InlineImageContainer"},{"data":{"copy":"<p>Here is another rare – nay, unique – modern Patek in Biver's collection. This is the 5106R sold at Only Watch 2009 by Patrizzi &amp; Company. What is most interesting about this watch is that after the charity sale took place, the Sterns asked Biver to whom he would like the paperwork made out. He replied he would like the watch to belong to his young son, Pierre. 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Then you add in the fact that the dial itself is also pink gold, making it the insanely collectible \"pink on pink\" 1518, and this example happens to be one of the finest ever shown, sitting with the same Swiss family from original purchase to the time it was sold at auction to Mr. Biver. Not much else to say about this one, but \"wow.\" </p>","dropcap":false},"type":"Block::BodyCopy"},{"data":{"size":"h2","headline":"Patek Philippe Oversized Chronograph 530 In Pink Gold Sold By Astrua Torino"},"type":"Block::Headline"},{"data":{"size":"large","images":["d13e0653-e364-46bd-b1ef-66bad9a174c3"]},"type":"Block::InlineImageContainer"},{"data":{"copy":"<p>The Reference 530 is the \"oversized\" vintage Patek chronograph, coming in above 36mm. It is far less common than <a href=https://www.hodinkee.com/"https://www.hodinkee.com/blog/your-christmas-whats-selling-where-chronographs-datejust/">the 33mm 130</a>, or 35mm 1579 or <a href=https://www.hodinkee.com/"https://www.hodinkee.com/blog/just-because-a-patek-philippe-ref-1463-waterproof-chronograph-live-pics-details/">1463. Most 530s you'll find will be in yellow gold or steel, but this spectacular example is in rose gold. On top of that, both the dial and case are as unmolested and pure as one could possibly hope for a 70-year-old watch. </p>","dropcap":false},"type":"Block::BodyCopy"},{"data":{"alignment":"inline_billboard"},"type":"Block::Advertisement"},{"data":{"size":"h2","headline":"Patek Philippe Chronograph 1579 In Platinum (One Of Three)"},"type":"Block::Headline"},{"data":{"size":"large","images":["9375fc0a-e3eb-4151-a260-b960f4694b6f"]},"type":"Block::InlineImageContainer"},{"data":{"copy":"<p>As soon as I saw this watch on Biver's dining room table, I couldn't believe it. I knew this watch. I've handled this watch. This is the platinum 1579, one of three in the world, and the watch that shared the cover of the November 2012 Christie's catalog with Eric Clapton's platinum 2499, and what would become Alfredo Paramico's unique Observatory watch from JB Champion. 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Many certainly believe so, and Mr. Biver happens to agree. But, as one would come to expect now, this ain't your average 2499. It's a second series watch, in pink gold, and the condition is absolutely untouched. Simply a dream watch. </p>","dropcap":false},"type":"Block::BodyCopy"},{"data":{"size":"h2","headline":"Patek Philippe Split-Seconds Chronograph Reference 1436 In Pink Gold"},"type":"Block::Headline"},{"data":{"size":"large","images":["67e53e05-95da-4164-9f28-6dd4c8c4ff51"]},"type":"Block::InlineImageContainer"},{"data":{"copy":"<p>What did you feel like Biver's collection was missing? How about a 1940s split-seconds chronograph pink on pink? 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It features a two-tone dial and comes with original rose-gold bracelet (not pictured), and though not signed on the dial, this watch was retailed by Serpico y Laino, and is stamped as such on both the case and the bracelet.</p>","dropcap":false},"type":"Block::BodyCopy"},{"data":{"size":"h2","headline":"Dual-Sided Cloisonné Enamel Pocketwatch With Scene Of Geneva"},"type":"Block::Headline"},{"data":{"size":"large","images":["c30db39a-af05-4d05-8483-a61fbab1e648"]},"type":"Block::InlineImageContainer"},{"data":{"copy":"<p>This is one of the most impressive pieces in Biver's collection due to its incredible artisanship on both the dial and caseback, and its rarity. One one side, you see a traditional boat on Lake Geneva, while on the other side, you see downtown Geneva, including the original Patek Philippe manufacture on the Rue du Rhone. </p>","dropcap":false},"type":"Block::BodyCopy"},{"data":{"size":"small","images":["5a27c066-f430-42ac-bc33-b466d6a3846e"]},"type":"Block::InlineImageContainer"},{"data":{"alignment":"inline_billboard"},"type":"Block::Advertisement"},{"data":{"size":"h2","headline":"Hublot King Power Cathedral Minute Repeater Tourbillon With Column-Wheel Chronograph"},"type":"Block::Headline"},{"data":{"size":"small","images":["a1b16125-1650-4a21-809c-dfee215494a9"]},"type":"Block::InlineImageContainer"},{"data":{"copy":"<p>And the watch on Mr. Biver's wrist? One of Hublot's monster King Powers, but this one comes complete with a tourbillon, column-wheel chronograph, and cathedral gong minute repeater. The 48mm carbon-fiber case provides a shockingly pure sound for this repeater, as heard in the video, and this 2011 limited edition release is never far from the man who made it happen. The price is $379,000 and <a href=https://www.hodinkee.com/"http://www.hublot.com/en/watches/king-power-minute-repeater-chrono-tourbillon-1/">you can read more on it here</a>.</p>","dropcap":false},"type":"Block::BodyCopy"},{"data":{"size":"h2","headline":"Further Thoughts"},"type":"Block::Headline"},{"data":{"copy":"<p>I hope this feature provides some understanding for who Jean-Claude Biver is as both a businessman and a collector. 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Another is the 45-year-old, tan-skinned, silver-haired gentleman you are about to meet. Alfredo Paramico is a true insider, and has long been considered one of the top watch buyers on the planet. Remember that <a href=https://www.hodinkee.com/"https://www.hodinkee.com/blog/a-look-at-jb-champions-unique-observatory-chronometer-wristwatch-the-other-patek-with-a-chance-to-become-the-most-expensive-watch-in-the-world/">unique platinum Patek Philippe Bulletin Chronometer</a> that sold for $3,992,858 in November of 2012? You know, the watch that actually beat the Eric Clapton owned platinum 2499 in the same sale? Yes, Alfredo bought that. Remember that <a href=https://www.hodinkee.com/"https://www.hodinkee.com/blog/christies-geneva/">one of a kind Patek Nautilus 3700 in platinum that sold for over $800,000</a>? That was his. How about an original Patek Philippe 1518 in steel (only four made), considered one of the most legendary and valuable timepieces on earth (even former Christie's head Aurel Bacs said that is the last great watch he would love to sell) – yes, Paramico has owned one. He paid 2.2 million euro for it.</p>","dropcap":true},"type":"Block::BodyCopy"},{"data":{"size":"small","images":["fff0e886-41ab-4536-b477-fe6d0e882945"]},"type":"Block::InlineImageContainer"},{"data":{"copy":"<p>Alfredo got his start investment banking, and eventually combined his passion and his career by working to create <a href=https://www.hodinkee.com/"http://www.eliteadvisers.com/themes/collectible-watches/">the Precious Time Fund</a>, which sought to reap financial gains from investing in, holding, valuing, and selling rare timepieces. At one point, <a href=https://www.hodinkee.com/"http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-09-24/patek-philippe-collector-tops-s-p-with-18-gain-in-fund.html/">Bloomberg reported that the fund topped the S&amp;P with an 18% gain.</a> Now, he splits his time between Milan and Miami, still attending every major auction in the watch world. He is less focused on the multi-million-dollar watches, and has sold many of his so-called \"<a href=https://www.hodinkee.com/"http://www.bloomberg.com/slideshow/2012-10-11/a-25-million-watch-collection.html#slide1\">white patek\" collection</a>. But, he remains a revered connoisseur and driving force in the vintage watch world. Today, Alfredo will show us just a few pieces from his massive collection – pieces he picked specifically because he thought HODINKEE readers would like them. 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Alfredo believes these 100 watches, numbered on the case back, were put together using leftover parts from those early watches, some two decades later. </p>","dropcap":false},"type":"Block::BodyCopy"},{"data":{"alignment":"inline_billboard"},"type":"Block::Advertisement"},{"data":{"size":"h2","headline":"Longines United States Military A7"},"type":"Block::Headline"},{"data":{"size":"small","images":["149f1023-1847-47fa-853c-25d25a47bac0"]},"type":"Block::InlineImageContainer"},{"data":{"copy":"<p>Considered one of the ultimate chronographs of the 20th century, this mega pilot's watch was delivered to American armed forces during World War II. It features a turned dial with a single button chronograph pusher at 12 o'clock. 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This later example features the best of both worlds in that it isn't a standard Type XX like you've seen <a href=https://www.hodinkee.com/"https://www.hodinkee.com/blog/whats-selling-where-an-original-breguet-type-xx-a-heuer-autavia-decompression-and/">here, but seemingly a civilian style watch that was used by the CEV, or French flight training center. Additionally, it has a gorgeous brown dial. This is a killer Type XX. </p>","dropcap":false},"type":"Block::BodyCopy"},{"data":{"size":"h2","headline":"1940s Audemars Piguet Chronograph in Stainless Steel & Pink Gold"},"type":"Block::Headline"},{"data":{"size":"small","images":["44f7c815-dd8f-4859-80cd-b730a088368c"]},"type":"Block::InlineImageContainer"},{"data":{"copy":"<p>While Patek chronographs from the 40s might reign supreme, similar watches from a similar time period from Audemars Piguet are actually far, far more rare. This 1940s AP chronograph is exceptional for its overall condition and the simple fact that it exists. 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The 570 is one of the most perfectly proportioned wristwatches ever made, and slight variations in dial and material can make a huge difference in value or significance.  The absolute most desirable configuration of a 570 would be with a two-toned dial with Breguet numerals. They are, quite simply, impossibly rare. Paramico owns a set of three of them – in yellow and rose gold, and stainless steel. The steel watch is indeed similar to the one owned by Paramico's good friend John Goldberger, but what makes these watches even more special is the quality of their cases and dials, and the simple fact that the exotic nature of the dials is even described on the extract from Patek. You won't find a set like this anywhere else in the world. Oh, and if you think the steel guy looks familiar, it's because it was used as the model <a href=https://www.hodinkee.com/"http://www.patek.com/contents/default/en/5196P_001.html/">for Patek's modern 5196P</a>.</p>","dropcap":false},"type":"Block::BodyCopy"},{"data":{"size":"h2","headline":"Patek Philippe 1463 Chronograph in Stainless Steel Retailed by Freccero"},"type":"Block::Headline"},{"data":{"size":"small","images":["191240e3-6217-4696-92e9-804473b8d3d7"]},"type":"Block::InlineImageContainer"},{"data":{"copy":"<p>The <a href=https://www.hodinkee.com/"https://www.hodinkee.com/blog/found-a-stainless-steel-patek-philippe-ref-1463-chronograph-with-two-tone-breguet-numeral-dial/">1463 is Patek's only waterproof chronograph</a> and essentially the last chronograph Patek made in the 20th century prior to the 1998 introduction of the 5070. It is the most valuable of the three vintage chronograph references (130, 1579, being the other two most commonly found) and Paramico owns what he describes as the ultimate steel 1463. He had been chasing this watch for years, having had to pass on it previously due to the fact he had just purchased a steel 1518 for 2.2 million euros. This particular watch is interesting because of its two-toned dial and the fact that it was retailed by Uruguayan jeweler Freccero. This is the watch Paramico wears the most at the moment.</p>","dropcap":false},"type":"Block::BodyCopy"},{"data":{"size":"h2","headline":"Patek Philippe Nautilus Reference 3700 New Old Stock"},"type":"Block::Headline"},{"data":{"size":"small","images":["6210144a-f161-474c-bfb4-3b6135142b0d"]},"type":"Block::InlineImageContainer"},{"data":{"copy":"<p>One must remember that Alfredo is as much a collector as he is watch lover. And for collectors, not all watches get worn. 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Based on the existing Blancpain Fifty Fathoms Mil-Spec watches, Mr. Alan Tornek built this watch to U.S. military specifications and included a rare and ominous warning on the case back reading \"DANGER, Radioactive Material, If Found Please Return To Nearest Military Facility.\" It is said that 1,000 watches were delivered, but collectors tend to say that less than 100 have survived in private hands. </p>\n<p>We hope you've enjoyed episode six of Talking Watches and below is a small gallery of Alfredo Paramico's collection. 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Then, as he was exiting a stint in the retail side of watches in his father's store, he decided to purchase a watch that he himself says he was afraid to buy until that point. </p>","dropcap":false},"type":"Block::BodyCopy"},{"data":{"size":"small","images":["b1f454a4-fe71-4d0b-862b-5c8c8b689f60"]},"type":"Block::InlineImageContainer"},{"data":{"alignment":"inline_billboard"},"type":"Block::Advertisement"},{"data":{"copy":"<p>That watch was a Paul Newman Daytona, reference 6241 to be specific. He paid $35,000 back then, and was afraid he'd lose money. This watch now is worth around $100,000. More recently, Alan has found himself returning to the world of Daytonas and he purchased this incredible reference 6263 Daytona with tropical sub-dials. 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This beautiful example from 1938 features a mono-pusher caliber 33.3 and gorgeous sector dial.  This watch is featured in <a href=https://www.hodinkee.com/"http://www.damianieditore.com/en-US/product/70/">Goldberger's Omega Sports Watches Book</a>.</p>","dropcap":false},"type":"Block::BodyCopy"},{"data":{"size":"h2","headline":"1942 Longines Chronograph Caliber 13ZN"},"type":"Block::Headline"},{"data":{"size":"small","images":["bc2d334c-1886-4438-ad17-60395da37a20"]},"type":"Block::InlineImageContainer"},{"data":{"copy":"<p>According to John Goldberger, this particular Longines, with a screw-down water-proof caseback, pump pushers, and black dial, might just be the most beautiful chronograph in the world. We wouldn't dare disagree, and it features a gorgeous caliber 13ZN, a movement we've told you about in the past as one of the world's greatest pieces of 20th century horology. 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J.J. has truly excellent taste, and an appreciation less of oversized, flashy pieces that dominate the wrists of the players in the league in which he plays, and more of traditional watchmaking in vintage sizes. For example, one of his favorite watches is the F.P. Journe Chronometre Bleu.</p>","dropcap":false},"type":"Block::BodyCopy"},{"data":{"size":"large","images":["23c0663e-bd29-4f0c-a0f5-8f46b8d00c71"]},"type":"Block::InlineImageContainer"},{"data":{"copy":"<p>That may not mean much to most of you, but to even know who or what FP Journe is is not commonplace in the \"real world,\" let alone in the NBA. Taking the time to understand what FP Journe is and appreciating  them shows an understanding and interest seldom found in people J.J.'s age, let alone in the NBA.</p>","dropcap":false},"type":"Block::BodyCopy"},{"data":{"alignment":"inline_billboard"},"type":"Block::Advertisement"},{"data":{"size":"small","images":["17ca9a11-3583-4420-b213-a0927eaf0b20"]},"type":"Block::InlineImageContainer"},{"data":{"copy":"<p>Another favorite of J.J.'s is the IWC Portuguese Automatic, a true modern-classic appreciated by the watch-lovers the world over, thanks to its lovely in-house 8-day movement.   </p>","dropcap":false},"type":"Block::BodyCopy"},{"data":{"size":"large","images":["402b0bf2-eaf3-49b6-842c-89effec6f7d0"]},"type":"Block::InlineImageContainer"},{"data":{"copy":"<p>It doesn't end there. The day that J.J. signed his latest, four year contract to play for the Clippers, he wore this watch – a limited edition Vacheron Constantin 1921 U.S. Boutique edition – again a favorite amongst die-hard watch lovers.  </p>","dropcap":false},"type":"Block::BodyCopy"},{"data":{"size":"small","images":["2d515669-745f-4e3c-8da2-8befbed5f376"]},"type":"Block::InlineImageContainer"},{"data":{"alignment":"inline_billboard"},"type":"Block::Advertisement"},{"data":{"copy":"<p>He's also a Royal Oak Jumbo owner (an unofficial must of any die-hard watch lover), and his first \"really nice\" watch was an AP Offshore Safari edition – a watch he still wears regularly.</p>","dropcap":false},"type":"Block::BodyCopy"},{"data":{"size":"small","images":["3daeec4f-3f7e-4ec3-a122-adf202134999"]},"type":"Block::InlineImageContainer"},{"data":{"size":"large","images":["fd9aa293-2f01-4c0f-a0b2-47499ac68f69"]},"type":"Block::InlineImageContainer"},{"data":{"copy":"<p>Finally, the last watch J.J. bought, and the watch he was wearing when we met for coffee, is one that came his way after signing his most recent contract – a Patek Philippe 5170G. 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You got it. Today we are proud to launch an entirely new HODINKEE original video series. We're calling it \"Talking Watches,\" and these videos are just that: us, talking watches with our friends, new and old. Basically, we will use these monthly – yes, you'll get a new episode each month from here until eternity – videos to give you insight into the minds of watch collectors you might not come across in your daily life. Guys like John Mayer. </p>\n<p>In this first video, I sit down with John to talk about how he got into watches, what his first great pieces were, and what's he's been wearing on his latest tour.  Since John and I first connected a few years back, I've gotten to know him well via multi-day conversations about double-references, short-lived bezel colors, and what the ideal lume plot should look like. John is as serious a watch lover as anyone I've ever met. In fact, he's downright obsessive. 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Jean Arnault is the Director of Marketing and Development for Watches at Louis Vuitton. In his short tenure shepherding the brand, beginning in 2021, he has made considerable noise in the industry and proven that while he's here to change things for the better, he hasn't lost sight of the past.

You can see his hand in the LV Watch Prize and the recent announcement that both the Daniel Roth and Gérald Genta brands would be revived via La Fabrique du Temps (the manufacture owned and operated by Louis Vuitton Watches).

A collection of 7 watches with a range of differently designed and colored dials and straps

That's Arnault's day-to-day. And he's still thinking about watches when he's off the clock – at age 24 he's already a full-fledged, die-hard watch collector with pieces that would make even the most seasoned enthusiast envious. 

A watchmaker works diligently on hand-painting a watch dial
Wide exterior shot of a building with a sign to the right of it that reads "La Fabrique Du Temps Louis Vuitton"

La Fabrique Du Temps Louis Vuitton.

Interior wide shot of a watchmaking studio with various watchmakers sitting at desks in an open floor plan office building

Louis Vuitton watchmaking studio.

And his collection runs the gamut from esoteric LV releases of old to antique Patek and even some very special Lange. See for yourself as we sit down with Arnault and get to the core of his collecting philosophy.

This is Talking Watches with Jean Arnault.

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Louis Vuitton World Timer LV-I
The Louis Vuitton World Timer LV-I wristwatch on an ornately decorated background
You're looking at the first serially produced watch LV ever made. Arnault got it when he started at the brand, and it's a quartz piece with more than several complications. As he says, it's the watch that got LV to stop making watches (prior to the existence of LVMH). The movement is made by IWC, and it's a cornerstone in his collection that he still wears often.

F.P. Journe Octa Réserve de Marche (Brass Movement Prototype)
F.P. Journe watch with yellow dial on an ornate background

This Journe is not as it seems. The surprise comes when you flip it over. It's a prototype and only three are known to exist. Arnault had his trepidations about the bona fides of this watch before buying it, but after taking the watch to François-Paul himself, he knew it was legit and special.

F.P. Journe watch on an ornate background
Caseback of an F.P. Journe watch showing the visible movement on an ornate background

Vintage Patek Philippe Ref. 10
Vintage Patek watch on an ornate background

This Patek is very important to Arnault. It's from the 1920s and is the only watch that we know about in this configuration with a Patek signature on the dial. We see a lot of Patek here on Hodinkee, but it's not often we get Patek this old.

Crown of a vintage Patek watch
Caseback of vintage Patek watch with a Patek engraving
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Patek Philippe Perpetual Calendar Chronograph Ref. 3970P Second Series
Patek Philippe perpetual calendar chronograph watch on an ornate background

This was a grail for Arnault, which he calls a "COVID find." He was on the hunt for a specific 3970 and went deep down the online rabbit hole. This watch is special (and platinum) but it also represents the thrill of the hunt, of the chase, and illustrates the true collecting bug that Arnault has.

Caseback of a Patek Philippe perpetual calendar chronograph showing the visible movement on an ornate background

A. Lange & Söhne Saxonia Thin Ref. 205.086
A. Lange & Sohne saxonia thin watch on an ornate background

This is the Lange that truly helped Arnault discover the brand. He calls it the most "whimsical" Lange. And although others try to convince him that this is a cocktail watch, he considers it to be a true daily wear.

Caseback of a A. Lange & Sohne watch showing the visible movement on an ornate background

Krayon Anywhere Only Watch
Krayon Anywhere One watch on an ornate background

Of course, we have an Only Watch to show you today. This Anywhere from Krayon displays the sunset and sunrise time. With a dial inspired by a Monet painting (though the brand won't say which one) this is one of those ultra-special pieces – especially when you consider that it's the only one in the world. 

Krayon Anywhere One Watch on an ornate background
Caseback of a Krayon Anywhere One watch showing the visible movement
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Louis Vuitton Escale Worldtime Minute Repeater Custom Watch
Louis Vuitton Escale Worldtime Minute repeater custom watch on an ornate background

And we get another piece-unique, this time with an extra personal twist. Enrico Barbasini of La Fabrique du Temps made this iteration of the LV Worldtime, especially for Jean. Whereas the normal version of this watch is hand painted, this one is Geneva enameled with a few mechanical updates made just for the owner.

LV-I and LV Escale Worldtime minute repeater custom watch side by side
Louis Vuitton Escale Worldtime Minute repeater watch on a textured background

Patek Philippe T2 Timing System
Patek T2

Last, but not least, we bring you something bigger. A Patek T2 modular timing system. No, it doesn't fit on Arnault's wrist but represents Patek's serious dive into quartz timing devices. It is a modular piece and was used in a German nuclear power plant for decades. Soon it will either adorn Jean's office or home – wherever it will fit.

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